Exhausted and unenlightened. Why oh why did I stay up until 3 a.m. looking at Super Tuesday election results? Now I have no energy to post the big stuff I’ve been writing for all of you, and my job’s a-calling. Le sigh.
And the stupid part is, after staying up that late (and waking up way too early), I still am not sure which democrat was the declared victor. Seems the Washington Post is with me on that one — both Clinton and Obama had big victories.
So because I’m drained and nowhere near completing the big fun fashion post I’ve been working on for ya, I’d like to open the floor for discussion — what do you think the Super Tuesday results reveal? And, in light of recently civil debates and constructed camaraderie between the candidates, do any of you have fresh feelings about an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket?
Back later with more postage, promise! Just need to get through this day first.
p.s. — Max has grown into such a big kitty! And when he isn’t being insanely frisky, he’s passed out on the nearest available flat surface. Sometimes I envy him. Like right now.
I still think the smartest thing to do would be for both of them to team up, just for the sake of reducing/eliminating the chance of another Republican president. I just don’t know which one I’d prefer to actually be the president…well, I know Obama made a comment specifically about my job(work at Upward Bound) so I’m definitely riding for him.
They are not going to team up.
Barack beat Hillary among white men. However the Latino support for Hillary is breaking 6 out of 10 that is going to be a big problem him in Texas. Hillary is also doing very well with older (over 45) white women. The next few weeks are going to be very interesting. This might go all the way to the convention.
Agreed – no teaming up.
Time is on Obama’s side. With more money, he can take it til the convention. Plus, pundits report that he does better the longer he campaigns in a particular place – ie, the longer people get to know him. Latinos in CA who made their decision in the last 3 days broke for Obama.
The thing I love – more people from Illinois showed up to vote for him than New Yorkers for her.
Call me an optimist, but the road ahead looks good for Obama (Potomac Primary, LA, Miss). And my PA vote will actually count! Yay!
P.S. – Cool new layout!
I’m team Obama all the way, but I’m scared to hope. I really want to believe that this country is ready for a change, a definite change, not just an empty promise made to get the vote. If he doesn’t get the nomination I’ll be crushed. I don’t want to experience that. I’m doing everything I can to put my faith in God and hope for the best. Anyway, I could see a Hilary/Obama ticket, but not the other way around. I think Obama is smart enough to know that VP may be the best way to get into the WH if he doesn’t win the nomination. He can do a lot more good as VP than he can as senator. Hilary wouldn’t go for an Obama/Clinton ticket. She has waaaaaay too much ego for that. If she wins the nomination I really may vote republican. To me she stands for the same ol same ol, female camraderie be d*mned! To end on a positive note, I’m excited to see all of the people that are turning out to vote and taking part in the electoral process!!!
I agree with Dee here. The political landscape changes so quickly, and I think whether the camaraderie was contrived or not between Clinton and Obama, they need each other, otherwise the votes will always be split, (insert Huckabee and Romney here) and that does not win a presidential election. I can’t imagine them on the same ticket, but never say never. I’m hopeful. It’s so funny cause my 18 year old brother who just moved up from the Virgin Islands told me that he would vote for McCain, and he has his solid reasons. I mean this is a young black brother who’s excited about the process and educating himself. I’m not with him on choice, but I love that there is a choice. And it’s still a hard one for me, even though I did have to make a decision in my own primary.
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Bella,
I too was up late and now I’m paying for it as I write you. There was no clear winner yesterday and the battle on the democratic side continues. I believe Obama can still win this nomination.
I would not want to see an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket. I want something new and the Clintons have had her time. They were in the White House for 8 years, plenty of time to make significant changes. I don’t want someone that is part of the political machine. I see Obama as an opportunity for new ideas and a new approach to government. Nothing changes if nothing changes. You know what I mean?
Xica Bahia
Yes I did too… thought I went to bed 2 hours before you! I amazed they have not deceided on a cleear winner for the Dem’s. This is a very exciting time in Amrican & Black History. I saw Hillary * Barack get together and sweep this thing together! By the way You have a cute Kitty my kittes name is Dakota!
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well i havent been following yall’s elections…
just dropped by to say Happy Bob Marley Day!!! 🙂 cheer up…one love! from Fashion Over Style
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Yes I did too… though I went to bed 2 hours before you! I’m amazed they have not decided on a clear winner for the Dem’s. This is a very exciting time in American Black History. I saw Hillary & Barack get together and sweep this thing side by side! By the way you have a cute Kitty my kitty’s name is Dakota!
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I’m behind Obama. It has taken me a long time to say this, but he’s grown on me. I had no fears about assassination or him not being black enough. I just wanted something more tangible and concrete w/respect to his policies, vision and a call to arms. Well, I have received all of those things and I am pleased to jump on the bandwagon. He and that powerhouse/dynamo wife of his are un-believable.
As for Super Tuesday, despite the spin from the Clinton camp and the media. Obama accomplished a hell of alot. I believe he won 13 states and some of them were a TOTAL surpise like Utah, Alaska, North Dakotah and Colorado. Many have said that the longer he’s in the race, the greater his chances and I firmly believe it.
The more exposure he gets esp. during the upcoming caucuses, the better for him. Both candidates are neck and neck. Obama is stellar at caucus time and if he can get the next group of states on board (which I’m sure he will), It’s going to be on and poppin’.
Woo-hoo! We have a real race on our hands folks and I think it’s going to come down to the DNC.
Look out world!
I guess I was one of many that stayed up late to watch the results. I definitely feel that everything is working out for Obama. Like it was stated earlier the longer he has to campaign the more people are going to come to his side. I feel that Hilary represents an old regime and we need a change to something better and different. I would love to see a Obama/Clinton ticket in the fall.
I think the Super Tuesday results reveal that we won’t have a clear front-runner for the Dem nomination until Convention! This is going to be an exciting election year, and I’m so pleased to see strong turnout at these primaries. People are coming out in droves! A news report on NPR yesterday said more than 60,000 people recently registered to vote in Alabama. 60,000!
As for a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket, I don’t see it happening. I think they knew they had to clean up the discourse between them or face middle-of-the-road voters turning their attention to the Republican side of the fence. This isn’t to say that Clinton and Obama don’t have respect for one another… but I don’t see them ever being on enough of an even keel with the issues to run together. It seems a weird match. I DO, however, think that John Edwards hasn’t endorsed either of them because HE might be a strong potential VP for either (though I’d like him better with Obama).
Side note: for the first time ever, today I contributed money to a presidential campaign — Obama’s.
The Clintons have offered Obama the chance to be vice president before they get there cheat on,but he said “Hell To The No”.I know that every registered Obama supporter better go out on Tuesday in Maryland,D.C you know(Chocolate City),and Virginia and get there vote on.
I didn’t stay up as long as I intended, but when I woke up this morning to find out that Hillary had taken 8 states to Barack’s 12–it left me with a positive feeling. He is not that far behind in delegates and can make up ground if he continues to get some of the smaller states. Go Obama!
I have heard a lot of democrats saying that regardless of who gets the nomination between Clinton or Obama, they will support whomever is running in the general election. I wonder if that attitude kept people from voting at all in the 22 states who voted yesterday?
Obama-rama, y’all! I’m SO proud! No, I don’t want an Obama-Clinton ticket (but would support it, if offered). I’m ready for Billary to step back and let a fresh breeze blow through Washington. No more business as usual.
I stayed up late also to see the results. This was a big primary in our house – my son voted for the first time in the primary(NJ). I was so proud ( I almost took a picture of him coming out of the booth). I have not seen people this excited about the electoral process in awhile – which is a positive thing. Maybe this yr more people will vote for the president than voted for American Idol ..unfortunately , the last presidential election – more people voted for American Idol ..so we got Bush!
I am an Obama woman all the way! But even if your views differ from mine , participate in the process.
and no, I do not want an Obama/clinton ticket. Obama/Edwards or Obama/Caroline Kennedy.
There would never be a Hillary/anybody ticket. It would be a Hillary/Bill ticket and some VP who will look out of place. Hillary’s name might be on the ticket but Bill is the alpha in that partnership! Beware
I can empathize with your state of mind, because I am also experiencing the same feelings after staying up late last night in terms of the Super Tuesday results.It is still very close between Obama and Mrs.Clinton.My general understanding is, at this moment, Mrs. Clinton has the advantage by seventy delegates with respect to the total delegate counts for both her and Obama.It will be a tight race going forward with Texas and Ohio being critical states for both.Notwithstanding, one is of the perspective that Mrs. Clinton will take both Texas and Ohio.Hopefully,Obama will be able to improve his standing with Latinos and pull a major upset in these two mega states.Concerning the question of an Obama/Clinton ticket or a Clinton/Obama ticket which would definitely be a formidable one in preventing the neo-cons from regaining the White House, one is not too optimistic in this regard.Apparently,neither Clinton or Obama are interested in playing or being a second fiddle.Interestingly,If it ends up being a Clinton/Obama ticket with Mrs. Clinton at the head, would Obama be able to relate to Bill Clinton, who in essence is eagerly waiting in the wings to run the show? Time will tell,and if one can segue, Happy Birthday to Buffalo Soldier, Bob Marley.NUFF RESPECT,PEACE,IRIE and ONE LOVE!!
I still don’t know who won either, and I’m still undecided as well. I’m not totally convinced at this point that either Clinton or Obama can back up their “promises” and plans. I’m all for hope and change but the office of President is not an autonomous one, there is still Congress to deal with. I’ll just have to wait and see, it’s definitely not a black and white decision for me(pun intended).
I think it reaveals the Democrats are going to do back room deals, to figure out their canidate. I hope they pick Obama, if they get a corporation to give Hillary money she will definitely sit down.
CNN’s Roland Martin wrote an excellent analysis of why an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket won’t happen. Here it is.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/04/roland.martin/index.html?iref=newssearch
I completely agree with everything Miss Sonya said…but don’t be scared to HOPE! I want Obama to win so badly, but I too am just hoping God will lead the RIGHT person to be the next president. I really hope that this thing is done before the convention. It would be completely sad if it ended up being brokered and 800 “superdelegates” determine the outcome.
Although I think neither would happen, a Clinton/Obama ticket is more likely than an Obama/Clinton ticket. Hell, an Obama/Clinton ticket would NEVER EVER happen. Hillary is not about to sit behind Barack as VP after she was 1st Lady for 8 years. No way in hell! lol! I do think that in the sad case that Barack doesn’t get the nom, he may consider a VP slot. It would position him nicely for another presidential campaign.
Shones: CONGRATS on making your 1st donation! It feels good to donate to such a worthy cause! 🙂
Warrior: Obama/Caroline Kennedy? Caroline seems like a very quiet and private person–not the political type. I’d put big $$$ down that this won’t even be a consideration.
I live in San Francisco, I voted at 7:00 a.m., then walked most of the way to work. Lots of folks were on the streets with signs–all the Clinton signs were professionally printed; virtually all of the Obama signs were handmade. The way I read that was Clinton=corporate, Obama=grassroots. I’m not even a Democrat, and I forsook voting for my beloved Cynthia McKinney as the Green Party choice (and she lost 🙁 ) in order to vote in their primary, but I don’t even think it’s about their particular platforms so much as what they represent to people, and their supporters here yesterday were the embodiment of that. As the spouse of a former president Clinton represents a kind of political old guard (I mean, really, do we want 28 years of just 2 families running this country?) while Obama represents a real possibility for change to many people simply because of who he is. I don’t believe in a general election she can pull any of the undecideds or non-partisan voters, let alone any Republicans (ignoring ignorant Ann Coulter). Obama can.
I agree with a lot of comments that have already been made. I live in LA and was there at 7:30 and the line was out the door. I too tried to stay up late waiting for numbers to come in… only to be super tired the next morning. I think that time is on Obama’s side. I went to the Women Support Obama rally at UCLA last Sunday and many of the people who were stading in line with me were former Hillary supporters. The moren people hear about him the more they like him. It’s just a matter of time. He hit the nail on the head last night when it said that his campaign started as a whisper and was morphing into a chorus for change. I know that my family in MD will be voting in the upcoming Chesapeake (or Potomac, if you like) primaries and they all are former Hillary supporters. With each primary that comes is even more of an opportunity for Barack to earn more delegates and pull further ahead of Clinton by attracting independants and coverting Republicans into Democrats (my aunt was one of them). This is definately the most attention I have ever given to a primary election!
I stayed up till almost 1:30 to see all the results. I think Obama got the nomination that he should pick Edwards not Clinton. If Clinton gets the nomination then I wouldn’t want Obama to settle for VP. He can always come back in another four years to run again. I say go for the gold Obama. Don’t stop at VP.
But both Edwards and Obama have said that they wouldn’t consider VP at all.
So if Obama wins (and I believe he will because he is more electable than Hillary Clinton), to whom does he offer the VP spot?
I think the majority of Hillary Hate is unfounded. Republicans loathe the Clintons because they’re the only Democrats who can and do play politics the way the Republicans do: to win. I’m not sure if Obama taking the high road can survive the inevitable down and dirty mud-slinging The GOP will resort to if he becomes the nominee. On the other hand, he has an amazing ability to rally Americans behind truth, liberty, and justice; to spur us all to action after we have dared to hope for something better.
Love it or hate it, The Clintons know politics and how to play to win. So I’d support an Obama/Clinton ticket. We need Obama to inspire and rally us, and a VP candidate (and Presidential Cabinet) who can help make those dreams reality – especially now that we’re headed into a full blown recession with teh war dragging on and on.
Great discussion on this post. And.. the new site design feels great!!
I haven’t checked your site in awhile, dear. It’s looking great! I did the same thing with election results. Then I listened to the Will.i.am Obama song and wrote a story about it. If only all the pols spoke to us like this: http://www.moli.com/p/election_center//article/199668